{"id":7249,"date":"2024-03-17T12:31:41","date_gmt":"2024-03-17T12:31:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/economicherald.net\/?p=7249"},"modified":"2024-03-17T12:31:41","modified_gmt":"2024-03-17T12:31:41","slug":"ten-bagger-john-forwood-tells-us-what-he-likes-in-copper-exposure-as-supply-struggles-to-meet-demand","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/economicherald.net\/?p=7249","title":{"rendered":"Ten Bagger: John Forwood tells us what he likes in copper exposure as supply struggles to meet demand"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>S&amp;P Global: between 2020 and 2050 the drive to Net Zero will double copper demand to 50Mtpa<br \/>\nAnalyst predict prices to hit all time high of US$11k\/t by 2025<br \/>\nCopper stocks to watch: Copper Metals, Mogotes Metals (unlisted), Caravel Minerals, Anax Metals, New World Resources, T2 Metals (TSXV)<\/p>\n<p>Welcome to Ten Bagger, where Lowell Resources Fund chief investment officer John Forwood gives us his take on a sector of the ASX resources market full of value.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This month, John tells us why market watchers thinks the copper price will rise after recently breaking the shackles of 12 months of indifference from traders.<\/p>\n<p>Copper, and not lithium, could be the metals that defines, controls and benefits most from the energy transition.<\/p>\n<p>S&amp;P Global thinks that between 2020 and 2050 the drive to Net Zero will double copper demand to 50Mtpa.<\/p>\n<p>Some of that will be filled by recycling, but it won\u2019t come close to closing the gap.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a situation that has analysts at places like Goldman Sachs and Shaw and Partners projecting prices lifting from under US$9000\/t today to US$10,000\/t and US$11,000\/t \u2014 the latter an all time high \u2014 by 2025.<\/p>\n<p>It comes after a host of supply cuts from miners like First Quantum \u2014 forced by the Panamanian Government to permanently shut its flagship Cobre Panama mine \u2014 Vale and Anglo American smashed expectations of a large copper surplus in 2024. A substantial deficit is now expected.<\/p>\n<p>On top of that China\u2019s decision to invest in a massive expansion of copper smelting capacity in response to increased demand from renewables and the energy transition has backfired.<\/p>\n<p>The radical lift in competition for tightening copper supplies has forced refiners to dramatically discount treatment charges, to the extent the industry agreed to voluntarily cut production this year.<\/p>\n<p>That will see lower refined copper output than expected, prompting a 3.1% single session lift to an 11 month high of US$8927\/t on the LME on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTreatment charges are as low as three US cents a pound, which is just insane,\u201d Lowell Resources Fund chief investment officer John Forwood said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019re just not making any money for providing this service unless they\u2019re swiping some of the by-product credits which sometimes in contracts they don\u2019t have to pay for.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Chinese smelting groups are getting together to try and work out what to do about it because they must be losing money.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Forwood said treatment charges were typically closer to 70c a pound, outlining just how tight upstream supplies are.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>Why is this bullish for copper?<\/h2>\n<p>Copper is already one of the top focuses of M&amp;A globally, with some of the biggest deals of the past three years centred on the commodity.<\/p>\n<p>Among the major transactions are <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/bhp-bhp\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BHP\u2019s (ASX:BHP)<\/a> $9.6 billion deal to acquire OZ Minerals and <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/rio-tinto-rio\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rio Tinto\u2019s (ASX:RIO)<\/a> own multi-billion buyout of minorities in the Oyu Tolgoi mine, along with major acquisitions in Spain and Chile from <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/sandfire-resources-sfr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sandfire Resources (ASX:SFR) <\/a>and <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/south32-s32\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">South32 (ASX:S32)<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not to mention consolidation further down the spectrum and the $325 million IPO of <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/metals-acquisition-mac\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Metals Acquisition Corp (ASX:MAC)<\/a>, which followed on from its more than US$1b deal to pick up Glencore\u2019s CSA mine in Cobar.<\/p>\n<p>If anything, competition is about to get hotter, Forwood thinks.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think one of the things that\u2019s going to flow from this \u2014 and I\u2019m already seeing it \u2014 is Chinese companies, mining companies in particular, are going to be going out and trying to put their foot on more copper,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019ll go upstream and make sure they can supply their smelters with copper, and certainly I was just in South America looking at a copper project and a lot of the expected interest in places like Colombia, Ecuador, with big porphyry copper projects is expected to come from the Chinese.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>What is the incentive price?<\/h2>\n<p>One outcome of recent inflationary pressure and the increased depth and complexity of mining operations is that the incentive price to bring a new copper mine online is increasing.<\/p>\n<p>Goldman Sachs sees incentive prices of US$3.6\/lb are needed just to get BHP and Rio Tinto to sanction an expansion of Escondida, the world\u2019s biggest single copper mine.<\/p>\n<p>To justify new developments, GS thinks long run prices need to be at least US$4.30\/lb \u2014 around US$9400\/t.<\/p>\n<p>Current prices are in the order of US$4.05\/lb.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s interesting, two of the bigger new developments that have just come online are in South America \u2014 Quellaveco and Quebrada Blance (QB2),\u201d Forwood said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of them needs a copper price of US$4.75\/lb to wash its face on project economics and one of them needs a copper price of six bucks to wash its face on project economics.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cQB2 needs six bucks a pound copper for a 15% project IRR and Quellaveco needs US$4.75 a pound for a 15% project IRR.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo on that basis, you would say that US$4.75\/lb is probably a minimum of where it needs to be to incentivise new production \u2026 and to bring on even more you\u2019re talking about more like six bucks a pound.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s well north of where we are at the moment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He noted the market did often find a way of filling what seem like insurmountable gaps, noting the speed with which nickel prices have been reigned in by rapidly rising Indonesian battery grade nickel production \u2014 all supported by processing advancements out of China.<\/p>\n<p>Forwood\u2019s hedging his bets on calling copper prices higher, but says there\u2019s a strong case for adding copper exposure to Lowell\u2019s fund.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSome of the smartest people in the room got it wrong on nickel. Could that be the same with copper?\u201d he mused.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell sure. 10 years ago everyone was forecasting that within two or three years we\u2019d have a massive deficit of copper.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPeople like WoodMackenzie etc. And here we are 10 years later and it looks very similar.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe gap got filled by not so much big new projects, and there have been a few, but it\u2019s been smaller projects 100,000tpa or less that have come online and expansions of existing projects.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCan that happen again? Absolutely. Can it happen to keep the price down where it is? You probably wouldn\u2019t want to bet on it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo what we\u2019re doing at Lowell is making sure that we do have good exposure to the copper market in the event the price does take off.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>So where are Lowell looking for copper?<\/h2>\n<p>As we\u2019ve seen in previous Ten Bagger columns, Lowell has been staunch on its enthusiasm for copper explorers in recent times.<\/p>\n<p>He has followed <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/cooper-metals-cpm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cooper Metals (ASX:CPM)<\/a>, which ran higher on the high grade Brumby Ridge discovery in Queensland last year but has been sold off this week after disappointing initial results from diamond drilling to follow up RC drilling that last year hit 71m at 2.8% copper.<\/p>\n<p>Forwood and Lowell has also been following Mogotes Metals, an unlisted company based in Melbourne which is hunting for copper immediately south of C$3 billion capped Lundin Group explorer Filo Corp and its Filo Del Sol discovery in Argentina\u2019s Andes mountain range.<\/p>\n<p>There are a couple of longer established Australian players Forwood also likes the look of when it comes to finding value.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of out biggest holdings is <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/caravel-minerals-cvv\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Caravel Minerals (ASX:CVV)<\/a> with the Caravel copper project in WA,\u201d Forwood said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s a massive but very low grade copper project, but it does have some real positives in terms of infrastructure, low strip ratio and decent metallurgy.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo we liked that one as an option on the copper price.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/anax-metals-anx\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anax Metals (ASX:ANX)<\/a>, which owns 80% of the Whim Creek copper and zinc project in WA\u2019s Pilbara is another development stage story Forwood likes, as well as Arizona-focused <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/company\/new-world-resources-nwc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New World Resources (ASX:NWC)<\/a>, which owns the historic and high grade Antler project in the US.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019ve got a high grade copper-zinc project, which is in pre feasibility study at the moment and moving through permitting, which would take at least 18 months,\u201d Forwood said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut their NPV on that project from the scoping studies I think is ~$600 million with a capital cost of ~$200 million.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNew World has got a market cap of ~$80 million.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe exciting thing is that they\u2019ve got a plethora of look-a-like targets to drill. Some are immediately adjacent to the known resource, and some are within trucking distance.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne called Javelin, which is just south of the famous Baghdad copper mine in Arizona, has a screaming copper soil anomaly and a screaming IP target as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Moving to Canada and Forwood likes the look of <strong>T2 Metals Corp (TSX-V:TWO)<\/strong>, a C$7.5 million capped explorer looking for polymetallic volcanogenic massive sulphides in Manitoba.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey just drilled a gold rich zone there \u2014 23.5m at 6.8g\/t gold plus base metal credits,\u201d Forwood noted.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s got a $9 million (AUD) market cap. If that was listed on the ASX it\u2019d probably have a $30 million market cap just to pick a number.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>Ten Bagger\u2019s copper picks share prices today:<\/h2>\n\n<p><span class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><em>At Stockhead, we tell it like it is. While New World Resources was a Stockhead advertiser at the time of writing, it did not sponsor this article.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"et_bloom_bottom_trigger\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/resources\/ten-bagger-john-forwood-tells-us-what-he-likes-in-copper-exposure-as-supply-struggles-to-meet-demand\/\">Ten Bagger: John Forwood tells us what he likes in copper exposure as supply struggles to meet demand<\/a> appeared first on <a href=\"https:\/\/stockhead.com.au\/\">Stockhead<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>S&amp;P Global: between 2020 and 2050 the drive to Net Zero will double copper demand to 50Mtpa Analyst predict prices to hit all time high <a href=\"https:\/\/economicherald.net\/?p=7249\" class=\"read-more-link\">[more&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":7250,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7249","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-finance"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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